You Don’t Want to get Caught in a Spam Filter

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Getting caught in a spam filter can end your commenting life

One of the things that comes with having a blog with a presence on the net is spam. I’m not talking about a little spam now and then, I’m talking about hundreds or thousands of them a day.

In the beginning I didn’t realize the impact on a person who suddenly finds their comments in a spam filter. I’ve dug a few of them out of the Lab filter from time to time wondering how they got there. For the Lab this is still possible.

But for the Tucson blog. I get more than a hundred an hour some days. I don’t have the time to troll through all the spam to find one that might be there by mistake. Besides digging in a very active spam filter is like looking for something dropped down an outhouse hole.

Keeping Out of the Spam Filters

  • Don’t leave one liner comments unless you personally know the blogger
  • Don’t stuff the name field with keyword rather than use your name
  • Don’t leave comment on post you haven’t read (Yes it is obvious)
  • Don’t flame a post

One Liners

I’ve talked about these before.   “Great Post”   “You have a great blog I’m learning a lot”   These will get you thrown in a spam filter by a lot of bloggers.

Keyword Stuffing

I much prefer just a name.   Lately I’ve been allowing some through with the keywords added after the name.   Some I remove the keywords from the name field.   Why?   LOL are you ready for this.   If I really like the comment I remove the keywords so the comment will get a Do Follow instead of a NO Follow.   More than likely with keywords added to the end of your name you will trigger a No Follow on your comment.   I would rather have the follow than the keywords.

But bloggers (having a bad day) will throw those comments right in the spam filter.

Leaving Comments on Post You Haven’t Read

This is almost ASKING to get thrown in the spam filter.   There is nothing more blatantly spammy about a comment than leaving one on a post you didn’t read.   And yes, it is obvious.

Don’t Flame a Post

If you have a real disagreement with a post in a rational manner outline your disagreement.   Or consider sending a message to the author and discuss it.   Flaming a post usually won’t get you out of moderation so the audience you think you are reaching you won’t and it will get you thrown in the spam filter not simply deleted. Consider it Author Revenge on a Flamer.

It is a lot easier to stay out of a spam filter than it is to get yourself out once you are there.   Remember, once askimet picks you up as a spammer you go directly to the spam filter ON ALL BLOGS USING ASKIMET not just the blog which put you in the spam filter.

Establish your own comment policy, not for your blog, but for the comments you will leave.   A good place to start is the opposite of the points made in this post.   Do that and you will be welcome on any blog.


  1. Steve Krzysiak says

    Great post!

    Sorry, had to do it :p

    Good read and very true. Not sure how you can spam in comments unless you directly link to a random product. I always though people might do it for google back link juice, but it seems that google doesn’t count comment back links. We still need to implement a spam filter, as for right now only registered users can comment on our blog.

  2. Steve,

    LOL, There is spam in a comment and there are spammy comments. A spammy comment is one that does not contribute to the post or discussion in anyway.

    And yes there are a lot of people leaving comments for backlinks and I wish the practice would stop.

    Thanks for dropping by the Lab.


  3. Steve Krzysiak says

    Yeah, I backlink to our main page for our brokerage just as a point of reference for readers. I doubt anyone reading this blog needs to buy a home, or do they? If so, please contact me at 1-800….. 😉

  4. Steve,

    LOL, Like selling coal in Lancaster.

  5. Steve Krzysiak says

    Off the blog topic:
    Hah, I always said ‘Don’t bring wood to the forest.’ A few weeks ago my gf said what is that, oh, you mean ‘coals to newcastle?’ I take it lancaster must be another coal region! Anywho, off topic…

  6. Dave,

    Great post. It goes a long way toward steering people in the right direction.

    For even more blog comment protocol, we built a page just to explain it, and there are several other points that we make to help people stay on track.

    I do need to post the link to it, so please excuse my slight variance to my own rules of not posting URLs. I do think it is approprioate in this case.



  7. Believe it or not you busted me. I was doing the first three. I will do my best to follow your rules.

  8. Dave,

    I’ve been a “victim” of an incorrect spam filter, and it’s not pretty. No amount of pleading by the blog owner, or myself, could right the wrong. I was banishcd from commenting for a long time – all of my comments ended up in the spam box.

    I finally hired an “expert” to track back for the source of why I was labelled a “spam commenter.” Never found any definitive reason why.

    As a result, while many articles prompt me to write a comment, I’m much more reticent these days. It takes great restraint on my part to not comment these days, but after what I went through last year, it’s better that way.

    And, no, I’ll not be naming the spam filter that incorrectly labelled me, miserable swine that they are.

  9. Dirk,

    I have never minded inclusion of a link when it contributes to the topic and discussion. Feel free to use them here.

    I have a comment policy page on all the blogs. (Few seem to read it).


    Sounds like you had a really enjoyable year. I had a friend a couple years ago ran into a similar issue. He simply used a different email address to comment while it was getting sorted out. It eventually did.

  10. Hi Dave, it’s Lenny with Sundream Estate in Marbella Spain, also an old member in REW Forum and I found your blog there. I’m going to read and follow your blog more; it’s interested to see what it’s going on in U.S market and of course the new things for the web pages and blogs.
    We don’t have so mush spam in our blogs in Spain and the same said my real estate friends. I’m surprised when you write that you get hundred an hour some days. I’m happy if someone writes a comment on our blog.

  11. You make very good points, but I am wondering about the “key words after your name” part. I always put my keywords after my name simply for the extra juice AND so people will know where I am from and what area of real estate is my expertise. What do you think of that? Is it better to not put the key words at all, or is it good to have those when they follow my name? Since most of the blogs I comment on I read and comment on pretty regularly, I am not really scared of being caught in the spam filters, but I was wondering if adding those key words “looks” bad to the blog owner?

  12. I think there is nothing worse than “flaming” a post. If you have an issue that is going to take more than a very short comment, then you should email the blogger directly NEVER leave a huge comment that goes on forever and rants-that is a sure fire way to get tossed in the spam filter.

  13. I think it is so funny that people will leave comments on posts they haven’t read. Granted, they might be getting a little link juice, but overall they are missing out on such great opportunities to share ideas, thoughts, and resources in our online community -that is the true benefit, not some little bit of link juice. Hey, and “Great Post!!” LOL!

  14. Linda,

    Here is how I feel about the keywords after the name.

    If you leave a good comment I’m going to click and see where you are from and what you write. If you claim to be an expert. Forget it, that’s the old “I’m the best” Web 1.0 marketing.

    There is no juice. I know a bunch of SEO Experts who never blog and are all about ranking and juice came up with the idea of putting those keywords in the name field.

    For many of us who have blogs that the same thing as spam. That is also why there are now plugins for do follow on comments where the owner of the blog can set the character limit so if the name is over a certain number of characters the NO FOLLOW, = NO JUICE goes back on the comment.

    I left yours on. It is way too long, and there is no juice.

    Finally, I would say it depends on the blog. This is a real estate tech blog. Not many people reading this are outside the industry and there aren’t many potential relocation buyers going to be coming to this blog. If I were leaving a comment on a real estate blog located in some part of the country other than where I was located. And the content of the post was topical to a discussion where you would comment about your area in comparison then it might make sense, but you could just as easily put that in the comment itself.

    Personally, I would never put keyword in my name field. I trust my reputation, integrity, and content of my comments to be what will bring people. Thats not to say if you use them you don’t have these same intentions. More than likely it mean you read somewhere it was good for SEO.

    I’ve never heard of a search engine buying or selling real estate. People buy real estate, and things have changed dramatically in the past few years where people don’t want to hear about what an expert I am or that I’m the number one agent in my town or I can meet “All their real estate needs”. They want someone competent and knowledgeable. This we can provide by the stage we have (our blogs).

    Since this is my hobby. I don’t care if people come to the blog or not. I do have a Tucson real estate blog I want potential buyers and sellers coming to all the time. But I don’t use comments on other blogs to bring them. I do write a post almost everyday on that blog with quality content about the community, events, the state of the real estate market, trends, and statistics.

    This is why I said if I really like your comment I’ll remove the keywords so you will get the juice. Because buyers and sellers aren’t coming here.

    Finally, I discovered the URL you entered is misspelled. I’ll try and find your blog and fix that. I should do a post about making sure your URL is the one thing you absolutely get right.


    I really don’t intend for this to be a lecture in any way. It is a rather lengthy answer and explanation of why I put it in the Don’t list. I’ve found your comments around the web and even the asking of the question here is great comment and contribution to the discussion. Please feel free to visit the lab regularly.


    PS. Linda I found the issue with your url. Your blog is a subdomain of your site the url to the blog is: (free juice 🙂 since www. is also a subdomain if you put it goes not where, thus a dead url.

    I never recommend putting blogs in subdomains because they don’t get crawled as often as they do when the blog is in a folder on the main domain. It is harder to get PR as a result and it can be hard to remember when to out the www. and when to leave it off.

    Have a great week.


  15. Really awesome post. I agree with you, keep on great posting! This can really help me improve as I’m also a blogger.

  16. Keahi,

    I believe it, I found your comment in the spam filter.

    I dug it out and approved which should be a start to getting you out of askimet. If you are reformed (LOL) you should contact askimet and request re-instatement. Otherwise you are landing in the spam filter everywhere askimet is in place.

    I get very little spam here at the lab, I check all the spam here before I delete, as I mentioned some blogs get hundreds a day they don’t check.


  17. I think on some sort of level, anyone who is operating a blog and DOESN’T have this problem, wants that problem. Spam in its self isn’t a good thing, but spammers are attracted to quality sites with eyeballs. So if your site is getting spammed, you’re doing something right.

  18. Scott,

    I always knew you were an optimist.

  19. Dave, I felt like this was a subject I at least owed you a comment on. You might not remember, but I left a comment on a previous post which made absolutely no sence. If you don’t remember, I’m the m guy. Anyway, I’m here to tell you Dave it right. If you don’t take time to read these blogs you not only can get no-followed, you can miss some valuable info. When I read these blogs I NEVR all of a sudden become enlightened or a bunch smarter. What dose happen is I learn just a very small bit of an idea, mentality, technology, method or a million other small things you can lear from other people. I’m not a re-invent the wheel type of guy. I like to watch others and improve on what they are doing. Back to the point. Those who are just trying to get a link, you are missing so much. a blogger, along with all his followers is a great resource for ideas. Dare I say “you” might contribute something. The short cut never gets you the big payout.

  20. Thank you for this good lesson. I’ve ever been told by my former guru, Fabian Lim from Singapore, that attracting searching engine is same as attracting human attention. Is it right ? It means that the machine filters all the entries as a human being. Day by day it becomes more and more perfect in tasting human feeling. This teaches us how we have to perform our site or blog best in accordance with human tastes. So it is not wise to pursue page rank just by relying on giving comment in order to get back link while ignoring to improve the content and all over the site appearance. By continuously enhancing site performance and make lasting meaningful relationship with other internet society the great result surely will follow. What do you think ?

  21. Dave, I understand that many comments are made simply for the link juice, and as you said they are usually easy to spot. But, I thought that in order for a page to pass any juice, it had to have page rank? Since most blog comments have little, if any page rank, seems like a waste of time and effort, would you agree?

    Tina Fountain ´s last blog post..2702 Tarpley Place – Paper Chase Farm

  22. @Tina Fountain – That is true when it comes to page rank on a post. Most posts have no page rank.

    If they do get any PR it won’t show for a couple of months. Then the juice is divided among all the outgoing links on the page, not just the comments. This means you are getting maybe 1/1000 of the juice coming from a post IF IT GETS INDEXED AND MAINTAINS ANY PR.

    Much better to spend your time writing good content that will get indexed and PR on it’s own.

    It is like spending time wringing water out of a turnip next to an ocean of clean water.

  23. Steve Krzysiak says

    Since I subscribed to the comments on the blog, I noticed today several nofollow tags in the email digest of the comments. Then I thought to myself, how can anyone get any juice with nofollows on all the commenters’ urls? If I’m not mistaken, nofollows are kryptonite to link juice, no?
    Wiki for the nofollow tag:

    Also, here’s a good nofollow read about trulia’s practices, via Greg Swan:

    Steve Krzysiak ´s last blog post..Real Estate Condo For Sale – 2 Bedroom Duplex Hot New Listing in Lakeview neighborhood! 742 W. Melrose, Chicago, Illinois

  24. @Steve Krzysiak – Steve,

    The no follows you are seeing are on a new plugin I’ve installed that goes to your blog and brings a link to your latest post.

    The URL associated with your name has the no follow removed. The link juice (if there is any once a post is indexed and receives PR) goes to the url you entered with your name.

    If however, your name is longer than a typical name (adding keywords to the name) it triggers a no follow.

    This way you get juice to your main page, if there is any to give, and you get eyes on your latest post at the time of your comment which might raise curiosity enough for someone to read your post and eventually become a regular reader.

    Two links, I no follow, I do follow.

    But as I told one commenter today. Link juice from a comment is like getting water from a turnip. It depends on the PR of the post if it ever gets a PR and the juice is divided up among all the links on the page. it is like 1/1000th of a drop of PR. Compared to the lake of fresh water you can get from every post you write on your own blog.

  25. Dave-
    I have been away for a long time. The tools you guys taught me in 2007 & 2008 helped my real estate business explode and put me at #1 on Google for many keywords. For that I thank you.

    I am now dusting off my SEO books and plug-in tools and trying to figure out WP 2.7 as I want to build some new real estate sites.

    As I come out of hibernation I was intrigued to read your thoughts in this post on commenting for backlinks. Just 1 year ago I thought that was all the rage and what you were supposed to do. Get 5000 backlinks and you will hit page 1. Now it is dead?

    What have I missed while doing my day job of selling real estate?


  26. @Minnesota Investment Property – It was the rage because some idiot SEO Pied Pipers lead a bunch if blogging kids into the woods with the promise of get backlinks to your site from comments.

    But look at what is in this post. The odds of those backlinks ever counting for a thing. All that has happened are bloggers are increasingly putting more and more filters on their comments to keep the crap comments from diluting their blog’s content and message.

    Good to see you back.

  27. Hi Dave,

    I’d not really over-analyze comment links in terms of Google juice. Admittedly, on a huge page, with a lot of comments, the juice may be negligible, even if it’s followed.

    One thing that the Blog Comment Assistant does is allow users to track their comment urls, and then it will automatically post them on spidered pages, so the comment url stands a chance of getting indexed.

    But, in the end, managing blogroll exchanges is where the real juice is at in real estate blogging. For those, it takes two blog owners to agree to do it. And the links are followed.

    There are about 60 DoFollow real estate blogs. There are thousands of real estate blogs with blogrolls that are under-utilized. There is some REAL link potential….

    Now, Dave, for sites like yours, you already have plenty of blogroll links coming back, some reciprocated, and some not.

    Most bloggers do not have your reach, or your content. Those people should be hooking up with each other, to their mutual benefit. The more that they do it, the more legitimate blogroll offers they will get from other agents.

    The Blog Comment Assistant tracks which blogs have blogrolls with active external links.

  28. @Dirk Johnson – Three years ago, real estate agents were encouraged to create state directories and put their link exchanged in those directories for “link juice”. Until this big push, those directories were used as a referral directory so you could have a good referral directory to get some good referral traffic for business. Then the SEO Experts took this idea and turned it into a link exchange juice builder.It worked for a while, till it got to be too big a practice. Then the ALL SEEING EYE OF GOOGLE turned to those link exchange directories and called them “Link Farms” and that is what they had been perverted into. We all had to get rid of our directories or face a penalty for having a link farm.

    Some of the unethical agents simply put a “no-follow” on the link to their directories. It removed the directory from the eye of google with a no follow and it turned all those links into ONE WAY LINKS from those they exchanged with.

    Blogrolls are for blogs to point their readers to other blogs they read or provide similar content and information. Now we are seeing the same thing happen with blogrolls. Then them into Link Juice by exchanging reciprical links in your blogroll.


    First, it is a reciprical link of sorts. If I have 100 posts I provide 100 outbound links, I the one I exchange with has 10 posts I’m getting back 10 exchanged links. Why would I want to do this?
    Google has already down graded and removed juice from exchange links. They know easily when a link is an exchange link.

    If a bunch of newbie RE Bloggers start using their blogrolls as link farms, soon we won’t be able to even have a blog roll.

    Do you see why this is A TERRIBLE WAY TO GET LINK JUICE? It is a temporary, quick solution at best. It is a perversion of the system at worst.



  29. Hi Dave,

    Reciprocation (ether with a directory or a blogroll) is a choice that site owners make. Some want to do it, others don\’t. I never say that a site owner should or should not. They need to be comfortable with their own decisions.

    Nor do I take the stand that it is necessary. There are many ways to get links that work.

    I would disagree that Google has taken reciprocation links off the table. Real world evidence refutes it, completely. I can point to hundreds and hundreds of real estate sites that use reciprocation as their primary link popularity, and that rank on page 1 of google for primary keywords.

    Dave, if you look at the top ranking sites for \”phoenix AZ rel estate\”, \”Seattle WA real estate\”, Scottsdale Az real estate\”, Orange County real estate\”, and many many other highly competitive terms, you will find reciprocators at the top, or near the top. Many of them use reciprocation as their primary source of links.

    Dave, this also applies to both old sites, and newer sites. I have the data to support this, again and again.
    That is a fact.

    When agents join \”link circles\”, or \”link clubs\”, and everyone links to each other, and few other sites, then Google has a way to discount these links.

    But if a site reciprocates outside of any kind of \”club\”, it works, it has worked for years, and it continues to work.

    People may disagree with the concept of reciprocation, and refuse to do it, but a cursory look at Google results proves that it works. Just take a look at the pages I mentioned, and see where the links come from to a lot of those sites. Many of them are very active reciprocators. If it did not work, they\’d not rak where they do, since, in many cases, their links mostly come from reciprocation.

    Reciprocation is one of the original forms of Web marketing that predates Google by five years.

    I also agree with you that good content is vital and valid.

    My question is this.. a new agent comes along, and has a blog, and wants to also get some rankings. With so many blogs in this world, how do they go about getting the links they need, if they refuse to cooperate with other agents?

    I mean that seriously. I am not really here to argue the merits of reciprocation. Been there, done it.

    Besides just writing good content, what actual mechanism/plan should they deploy to get the links that they’ll need to compete, especially in market like Phoenix, where the top sites have hundreds and hundreds of links?

    How do they match that, and when, and at what cost? At some point, many people simply decide to do what those sites do.

  30. @Dirk Johnson – Dirk,

    I did a search for each of those terms mentioned. I don’t know which particular sites you are referring to. I didn’t find reciprocating links on any of them. But that’s not my point.

    Domain age is very significant. Older domain names carry a lot of weight.

    Amount of content carries a lot of weight.

    Here are two links one from Matt Cutts on reciprocal link exchanges

    Matt cutts

    Here is another one

    I have no intention of arguing there merits either. For me If Google says it is a bad idea it is a bad idea. When I know personally guys that didn’t listen to the warnings from Google about link exchange directories on their websites they disappeared.

    Next question. Where do the new ones get links to compete.

    1. They don’t compete. Forget about trying to compete. A new person on the web will not be able to compete for “Phoenix Real Estate”. No matter how many backlinks you get you can’t get more than they have. No matter how old your domain name gets they get even older. If they are paying a company to create link campaigns for them that are constantly changing to stay one step ahead of Google (and this is being done and very expensive) you can’t compete. We all see sites like Trulia and Zillow ranking higher and higher for those types of search terms. And they get that free content from agents who don’t realize they are building their competitors sites with every comment they leave. If you are playing by the rules, you can’t compete. Not for those main search terms.

    2. What do you do? You go after the many other search terms in that market that are easier to compete for.
    3. If you are just starting out you go by an aged domain name from an auction. It doesn’t have to have keywords in it, just age.
    4. Create your own ONE WAY backlinks to your site.
    See the post:Hyper Local Target Marketing Create Your Own Backlinks
    5. In short #4. Get listed in Directories, Get your posts picked up by Outside in and Yourstreet. Create a flickr account and upload photos. Link to your blog from those photos. You can create hundreds of backlinks in the course of a year.
    6. Build a good solid reputation with Google though webmaster tools and claiming your site/sites.
    7. Allow and encourage Google to index the images on your blog.

    There are more ways. All of them have been outlined here at the lab in one post or another.

    I have no reciprocal link exchanges. I do have blogs I link to in my blogrolls. They are sites I want my readers to be aware exist and sites of my friends I have come to know and respect in the blogging community.

    One way links in a blogroll will get you a lot of juice from a blogger that is creating a lot of content.

    BUT here is the biggest thing. I keep saying this over and over again. CREATE CONTENT. If readers, bots, google, come to your site and you have 10 posts you wrote last year. You can have all the back-links in the world. But without content you have nothing anyone wants to link to or with.

    It is work, plain and simple, it takes work and time. I’ve built my blogs over the course of 2 1/2 years, it takes time and persistence. But you don’t have to keep paying someone a monthly fee to keep you on top. You don’t have to keep chasing the fast buck, or the quick fix.

  31. Hi Dave,

    You and I come at this from a very different set of circumstances and perspective.

    I really don’t get involved with SEO theories anymore. To me, it is all about what works, consistently, and is readily applicable.

    I spend a lot of time analyzing top ranking sites and their back link profiles, to see what they are doing. I really avoid SEO gurus. I’ve been reading many of the “celebrities” for ten years. Their chicken little scenarios never come true.

    What worked well ten years ago still works today. That is this: Build some form of network of links within your realm of interest, with legitimate websites. Maybe that ‘s basic reciprocation. Maybe it’s forum postings. Maybe it’s content citation.

    What’s old is new again, just in a different shopping bag. Years ago, we had webrings. They worked. They’re now out of favor, but “social networking” is in favor. Yet they both represent mutual cooperation. At least to me.

    These days, the link networking opportunites that exist in blogging and social networking are enormous. AN explosion like I have never seen. Site owners that have been, shall I say, “applying” it to their advantage, have been doing well.

    We track blogroll linking. We look at who links to who. I can state, with considerable confidence, that there exists a community of real estate bloggers that very directly support *each other*. It’s almost a clique.

    Blogroll link exchange is blogroll link exchange, no matter how it comes about. Maybe the “dance” to get the link is more elaborate for some people than others. But I can show a direct correlation between the most ardent blogroll link exchangers, and good rankings. To deny it is to deny reality in the blogosphere.

    New agetns coming online with blogs want some of that, but maybe they find that among the well-established bloggers, they stand little chance of getting noticed or linked.

    What do they do? They find people who will cooperate. They form their onw network, of people who need each other’s support.

    I find that hard to fault. Especially if they are “giving”, and not getting. And now, that is also what is happening. Some gurus out here are “getting” a lot more than they are giving.

    At some point, if an agetn is not a part of a select “inner circle” of bloggers that link to each other, but they have been linking to them, they just might decide that the slots on their blogroll that previously went to a “guru” who doesn’t even acknowledge their existence has replaced by a link to someone that they know and that gives back to them. It’s not really based on content, but on serving a mutual need. We can’t really balme them, can we? I think not.

    Dave, what I am describing will happen, whether I say it or not. Nature abhors a vaccum. Site owners with blogs will soon start to wake up and realize the potential of their blogroll, as it applies to THEIR OWN needs.

    At first, they’ll cite “content” on their blogroll. They are told to do that, and novice bloggers.

    Once they get hip to the potential and the currency they own with their blogroll, they will, insteadm begin to cite other site owners who respect that currency, on an equal footing, to their mutual benefit.

    This is where it’s headed. Not because of me. I am just a voice in the forest. Because the potential is huge. Some people will do as I describe, right out the gun. They’ll just skip the “let’s cite great content” phase altogether, and do what is in their own best interest.

    Then, they will likley climb the rankings, too, just like the small but growing circle of blogroll link exchangers that I am already observing here. These new people wil grow their own “networks” of link friends, and there will be a lot of crossover.

    Blogrolls, by their vary nature, are “link currency”. I am not here to judge it one way or antoher. I just think that I have a very good idea how this will play out, having been in this business for ten years. Currency eventually gets spent for things of value.

  32. I have 3 blogs. One of them I am attacked by over a dozen “Great Post” comments. It’s annoying and I delete them. I also agree that the blogger can see if you didn’t read the post. It IS obvious. I’ve left comments on blogs before about disagreeing and it has turned out to be a healthy discussion. “Flaming a post” isn’t tolerated among us bloggers. I always put my real name in comments. I take pride in my reputation. Why WON’T I want someone to know what I am writing. After all, I am a blogger!

    Scott ´s last blog post..Search Hudson County MLS

  33. I just set up two blogs and there are lots of spammed comments from overseas, with German language, each time it will send around more than 10 comments, very annoying. So my husband has helped me to install a spam filter and now I do not see them anymore, Horay!

  34. I have a question about your comment plugin, I love the way your comments look, is it a function of your theme or a seperate plugin? I found this discussion when I was king for information on Comment Kahuna, and got drawn into the conversation. The only way I would use Kahuna is to find interesting blogs on the topics I am working on, like yours, thanks for the info if you are still around I have bookmarked this so I can check back for your response, thanks!

  35. Carin,

    There are plugins associated with comments, (subscribe to comments, link love, etc.) but there is not commenting system plugin, the way they looks is the css in the theme. Hope that answers your question.


  36. Thanks for your response Dave, I just checked out the code in firebug (classes are comment odd and even), because I am designing a new site in wp and will probably do something like this layout, appreciate you taking the time to respond, Carin