Trolling for Links vs Being a Backlink Troll

drop of orange juiceThere are plenty of spammers and short cut artist in the net taking a good tool and using it for less than honorable purposes. So why not take a Trolls tool and use it for a good purpose.

Marc Rasmussen made a good point about wanting to put his efforts into commenting where it will do the most good for both the blogger and the commenter.

“I’m one of those guys….kinda. I found your blog through a dofollow search in the new Google beta search. I didn’t really know this existed but a friend of mine showed me.

So now I am writing a comment for a little link juice but I did read your post as well as a few others. Great blog.”

If you are going to read and comment why not do it where there is juice coming to you for providing content to the discussion.

Now before we go too far down this road you should realize that even with a do follow on a blog it doesn’t mean there will be any juice.

  • First, the post if new has no juice to give.
  • Second, if this post is not indexed there is no juice to give.
  • Third, even if it is indexed if it has no PR there is no juice to give.

Therefore, even if you do find a blog with do follow it doesn’t mean you will be getting any juice. At best it is like having an orange (the blog) and you might get a single drop of juice (your comment on an indexed post) at some point in the future. If the post falls out of the index the single drop of juice dries up with it.

Now, once you realize how much work can go into searching for do follow blogs and posts to read and comment on knowing there might be a little juice coming to you in the future but not knowing for how long. Is this really the best place to be putting your SEO efforts?

If you still think it is then why not go ahead and use a tool like Comment Kahuna. I won’t recommend it because:

  1. This is software they give “free” that I have to install on my computer. What are they trolling from me that I’m providing them for free?
  2. Anyone that thinks it is white hat to use a tool to leave comments just for backlinks are not people I want to provide access to my computer system.

I”m not familiar with the Google Beta Search Marc mentions in his comment. It might be something to check out for me, I would rather spend my efforts in writing more quality content which will bring readers an in turn indexing which puts a lot more juice in my Orange than a single potential drop of juice coming from a comment on a blog I have no control over. Hum, just a thought!

Comments

  1. Marc Rasmussen says:

    Great post. I agree that most SEO efforts should be geared towards improving your site by fresh interesting content. Actually, that is all I have been doing lately. Other than a couple of links here and there I can’t remember the last time I made an effort to get links. Yet, I still rank #1 for ‘Sarasota real estate’.

    By the way, it is spelled Rasmussen. 😉

  2. Marc,

    LOL, I had the double s in the wrong place and fixed that, never thought about the rest of the letters.

    Fixed now. Don’t want people looking for the wrong person. : )

  3. I’m glad some people are leaving comments just for the links, as long as they add to the conversation. On the other hand, there are certainly a lot better things to do with your time if you are working on SEO, like maybe writing a blog post of your own.

  4. WOW, Lydia,

    What a novel idea! Write a blog post. DUH! why didn’t I think of that? : )

  5. It IS a novel concept, isn’t it (laugh). I guess my comment was common sense! Believe it or not, in my market, with over 1000 agents, I’m the ONLY one with their own frequently updated blog. There are a couple that blog on AR, but does that count? 😉 I’ll always contribute work on my own domain before contributing to others or drowning myself in a sea of other agents…but I’m different that way!

  6. I’d say there are a 6,000 – 7,000 agents in my area. I don’t know anymore as I see so many of them dropping like flies. I think I am probably the most active blogger. There are only a handful of agents who blog consistently. Which suits me just fine.
    I do like to blog on other sites just to shake it up a bit and get a link here and there. I am not really trading links anymore so I try to get them that way.

  7. Dave, I definitely agree that there are better ways to get links, but most of the time, I just don’t feel like writing. I guess I’m not the writer I’d hoped to be. In addition, I learn a lot from reading blogs and think that reading and commenting on blogs is an important part of constant education (not that writing isn’t a great way to learn too). Experienced professionals like you have taught me a lot.

    IMO, it’s good to write and comment on blogs – blogs provide you with an education, some links and can help get you involved in a community (depending on how active you are). I think that if I visit a blog, read a post, and comment on it, I’m giving the writer one more reason to keep writing.

  8. Jayson,

    I agree with most of what you say, except the “Experienced professionals like you” part. That’s a little thick. : )

    I just write and post about what is interesting and helpful. I keep laughing at myself about this hobby blog being my one with the best traffic and highest PR. To bad I’m not in the business of RE Blogging.

  9. Great post. Many people still think that commenting is a good way to get back links. Mike, it’s not surprising that this blog, which is about blogging, has the “best traffic and the highest PR”. There are lots of RE agents looking for ideas to improve their blogging. When it comes to a super local RE blog focused on buyers and sellers, these readers come mostly from Google and don’t generate back links as they are “transient” readers and may not even have a web site. IMO, consumers rarely link back to the RE local blogs. If the back links are not coming from consumers, the other source of back links are RE bloggers through blog rolls. I heard Google is “cracking down” on those as well.

  10. Faina,

    Your observation on back links not coming from transient consumers is right on. Google has been “cracking down” on excessive blogroll links and link exchanges. They are also very down on paid links. (those can get you banned buying or selling)

    So where does that leave us to generate back links?

    There are a lot of good resources to answer that question in the series on Hyper Local Target Marketing.

    Lydia Taylor has also posted on ways to generate quality back links on her post “Great Ways to Get Free Links“.

    I have found certain product related posts are picked up by vendors who will back link to those posts, but that is rare.

    Generating good content is still one of the best ways to pick up back links. Just like the one I just gave to Lydia in this comment.

  11. Like Marc I prefer to spend time on a dofollow Blog when reading but not always. If it is not dofollow I may cruise through it much faster like a hit and run.

    I agree that spending time on your own Blog is more important than trolling for links. But personally I enjoy reading more than writing so I might as well get a link when I do comment.

    So if you look at links like a paycheck, I would rather get paid for reading and commenting than just doing volunteer work. 🙂

  12. Dennis,

    I don’t ever check for a do follow blog. I look for good and interesting content. Topics that catch my interest.

    Unless that post is indexed, which a do follow does not guarantee it is volunteer work : )

    But new content on your own blog is another line in the search engines water bringing real people to you.

    That’s why I prefer to get a big paycheck for real rather than the hope of one from a blog post I have no control over.

    Have you kept track of how many clients you have gotten from comments on other bloggers posts? Hum, that gives me something to think about.

    Dennis thanks for dropping by the Lab.

  13. I don’t specifically look for dofollow, but I have Firefox set up to highlight all nofollow links so I quickly see.

    >Unless that post is indexed, which a do follow does not guarantee it is volunteer work : ) That’s why I prefer to get a big paycheck for real rather than the hope of one from a blog post I have no control over. Have you kept track of how many clients you have gotten from comments on other bloggers posts? <

    Hard to track, but my guess would be zero.

    Good post Dave!

  14. Dennis,

    Sometimes I wonder where this stuff comes from.

    Does anybody ever recall getting a client from a comment left on a blog you didn’t author?

    I picked up several from comments on my own blogs, but not on another’s.

  15. Great post. Many people still think that commenting is a good way to get back links. Mike, it’s not surprising that this blog, which is about blogging, has the “best traffic and the highest PR”. There are lots of RE agents looking for ideas to improve their blogging. When it comes to a super local RE blog focused on buyers and sellers, these readers come mostly from Google and don’t generate back links as they are “transient” readers and may not even have a web site. IMO, consumers rarely link back to the RE local blogs. If the back links are not coming from consumers, the other source of back links are RE bloggers through blog rolls. I heard Google is “cracking down” on those as well.