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I don’t really understand a listing agent calling me and asking for feedback on their listing.  The first time it happened I had no clue what they were asking.  “What do you mean by feedback?”  What do you think of the house. What does it matter what I think of the house.  It isn’t my listing.  I’m not buying the house.  Sometimes I like to say, “I didn’t like it”  Of course that isn’t enough the next question you all know “What didn’t you like about it?” 

I’m pretty new to being a Realtor. As many of you know my background is more real estate technology. My main roll when we go out showing homes to our buyer clients is

  1. Open the car doors
  2. Open the doors on the home we are viewing
  3. Take care of filling out the sign in sheet
  4. Look for potential issues with the property

I don’t spend time talking with the clients. The other part of our team focuses on them, not me. Maybe teams showing homes is a new concept. It is obvious from the sign in sheet we are together, but maybe some agents don’t make that connection.

Personally, I would never ask an agent for feedback. I compare it to me spending my time creating a website or blog then asking an agent for feedback on the website.

  •  ”Oh I like the colors.”
  •   ”Oh it is pretty.”
  •   “Oh I like the pictures.”
  •   ”Oh those drop down menus are really nice.”
  •   ”I really like the flash.”

The average real estate agent has no clue what to look for to tell me if this is a good website or not.
I can take two minutes and look at most agent websites and tell you if they have a good site or not. I know what to look for.

  • I know to look at the title tags.
  • I know to look for a site that is all flash or Javascript.
  • I know to see home many pages are indexed, etc. etc.

Would you ask for feedback from someone that has been an agent for a month, or even a year? What is the value of this feedback.

I took all of my classes to be an agent and Realtor.  There were no classes or questions on my exams about feedback. I took our brokerage “Academy” classes, there was never a mention of feedback.

Is this just a Tucson thing?  I have no clue when they ask me for feedback on a house. I mean they listed the house, don’t they know if it is priced to high or low; don’t they know if it is too dark inside, or has too much wallpaper all over the place. Don’t they know it smells like a zoo inside because of all the pet urine in the carpets?

Do you want someone else to be the messenger of the news that you should have told your clients in the first place?  Do you want me to give you feedback so you can tell them, “The feedback I’m getting is your house stinks”

I always get the question, “What did your clients think of the house?”  Most of the time we show anywhere from 5 to 20 homes when we go out with clients.  I’m concerned about making sure the appointments to show are all made.  I’m doing a lot of things as we move from home to home but I’m not asking what they think. I’ve tried asking that question I usually get something like, “Well, lets see some other ones.” or “Hum” and when I’m standing in that home that smells like a toxic waste dump I understand what “hum” means.

You need feedback for this. 

  • It is dark as a cave,
  • it stinks to high heaven,
  • it is filthy,
  • the place is a disaster. 

I got a call yesterday from an agent.  The house was dark inside with a very small kitchen, next to a school with lots of elementary kids, buses, speed bumps, and school crossings with 15 mph signs.  The agent wanted feedback.  My first thought, she must be blind and deaf, but she called me on the phone.  I told her the home is dark with a small kitchen.  Her question, “Were you with clients?” On the sign in sheet there is a P for preview and S for show, she called me so she must have had the sheet there, Yes, I was with clients.  Well what did they think. They were in the home less than a minute and thought it was dark, the kitchen was small and it was close to a school.

Are you telling me this listing agent didn’t know it was dark with a small kitchen, etc. etc.?

Honestly out of the 35 or so homes I might have been in the past week, I don’t remember or care what it looked like, or what I thought about it.  I just don’t spend a lot of time thinking about a house. 

I’m thinking,

  • Did I sign-in,
  • are we behind schedule and I have to call ahead and change the time for all the rest of the homes we want to see. 
  • Did one of them slip outside for another look at the backyard and leave the slider or side-door unlocked.
  • Did I just lock the door and leave the key inside with my ekey? 

I think you get the picture.

These are the things I’m concerned about.  I don’t see the value of any “feedback” that comes from me.  If you are asking about  your website or blog, “Yes”, about your listing “No”.  Would you ask your butcher if you should have that open heart surgery or not? Then make or even consider making your decision based on the “feedback” from the butcher. 

I think the listing agent is doing a great dis-service to their client if they carry anything I say to them about the house back to their clients.

My usual response, “I’m sorry, I was in so many houses I don’t even remember yours.”  Good enough, NO

  1. Oh, it was the one with stucco on the outside,
  2. the two car garage and
  3. the gravel in the backyard 

“Yeah, I remember it now.”  So what did you think.  “I don’t remember.”

It seems a little egotistical to me, when they get angry because I don’t remember their listing.

I’m working on a new strategy, “Oh you haven’t heard? we are using the newest approach to showing listings in real estate, we show as a team, I take care of all the details, while my partner interacts with the clients.  I’m sure you will be calling her next since her name is right after mine on the list. Have a nice day.”

I think this one has potential.

Things are rolling along nicely in the world of Wordpress 2.1  I reported just a few days ago that I didn’t thing this version was ready for prime time, it wasn’t.  I think it is much closer now and most could update now following the upgrade guidelines from Wordpress and heeding some of the additional things I mentioned in the previous post.

I would no longer hesitate updating to Wordpress 2.1 but make sure you follow the above recommendations or you could regret it.  Make sure you qualify or update all your plugins before you update.

Here is a look at the new post/page editor.

wordpress editor

There are some new changes to the post/page editor.

  1. Preview tab is gone  I DON’T LIKE
  2. The insert image now has Border, V & H space I LIKE IT
  3. You have to type the entire path for the image insert I DON’T LIKE IT
  4. If you have to downsize the image you can no longer simply replace it. You have to change the setting in code for size and style or delete and reload the image. UGH
  5. The “Insert” “Cancel” buttons are switched.
  6. Spell checker added, it is different and take some getting used to NEUTRAL
  7. Switch between Code & Visual mode with a tab I LIKE IT
  8. If you highlight and move code it breaks I DON’T LIKE IT
  9. It now has autosave I LIKE IT, but when the save is happening the category checkboxes all blank out.  Don’t panic when the save is complete they are back.
  10. Things are all moved around on the page NEUTRAL, it just take some getting used to.

The blogroll is different with all references to links being gone for the most part. 

Comments now have their own tab.  That is nice in a way, but I can no longer see the spam filter for Askimet (4) without clicking on the comments tab.  I liked it right out there where I could see how many were in the queue.

I would also recommend that when you log into your blog’s dashboard you scroll down and see what is new out there on Wordpress.  There are new themes, plugins and fixes showing up daily in that section.

Plugin Updates.

Subscribe to comments  I hope that fixes the error you all have been seeing when you post a comment.  If you get that error, just hit the back button, you will see your comment.
Ultimate Tag Warrior The bug with the tags disappearing after a comment or trackback seems to have been fixed with the latest update.

Askimet  The spam filter, there is a new version included in the 2.1 upgrade, you will need to install it by hand but it is included in the 2.1 files under plugins.

Be sure to check the 2.1 compatibility plugins list.

Would I upgrade now if I hadn’t? YES I would.  I know some have said to wait a year.  A lot happens in a year.  I think a lot of good things happened in a week.  If you are still hesitant, wait another week, I’m sure there will be more fixes and updates coming this week.  But I no longer see any deal breakers out there and the wordpress blogging community is responding very quickly to any issues that do seem to pop up, or jump out and bite.

The Tiga theme has been updated to deal with some of the changes made to the table structure for Wordpress 2.1

The link is http://themes.wordpress.net/download.php?theme=66

My thanks to RT Cunningham at Untwisted Vortex for his continued updates on the Tiga Theme.

I was hoping the theme would have a bug fixed for the permalinks issue.  If you change the permalinks setting to anything but the default all the formatting for your blog will disappear if you are using the Tigarator.  I had to check the box to not use the tigarator for styling the theme then I had to tweak the styles.css to format the theme to look like I wanted it to.

If you have done the same you will  need to keep a copy of your old Tiga theme directory and once you install the new version above copy over the style.css or any of the other files you have modified from your old copy of the theme.  It will work, I’ve just dont it on this blog. 
If you modified the tiga.php file you have a little more work ahead.  This is where the query for the blogroll had to be altered.  You will need to make your own edits to this file or copy the new code into the one you have modified.

I’m pretty sure the author of the theme changed the category links query so it was updated to the new table structure in Wordpress 2.1 but probably not much else.

I know there are a lot of blogs that like this simple 3 column layout of this theme.  I’m glad the author is still updating the theme.

Jonathan Dalton asked where I was with Tobey’s bordered image.  Sorry Jonathan, I’ve been in a two day investment seminar here in Tucson.  And here in Tucson when someone asks where’s the border it isn’t usually a picture they are talking about.

Tobey's ImageHere is your new bordered image for my buddy Tobey.  Tobey, just have Jonathan right click and save.

It has been a long two days and I hope to get caught up on some of my blog reading and creating a few posts myself. 

I know I’ve come out hard on Wordpress 2.1 and for a good reason.  I think a rosy picture was painted of the new version without enough warning and checks and balances.

However, I don’t want anyone to think I don’t like Wordpress 2.1.  I’m finding some really nice new features built into this new version.  One of those features is vspace and hspace functions built into the insert image dialog box.

That’s right, you can now tell how many spaces you want for your side and bottom border and depending on how you justify your image determines where the space is created.

If you are using an avatar in every post I would suggest you do it the way I have shown in the post Add a Little Margin  So you don’t a have to input those settings each time.

It is late here in the Old Pueblo so I’ll save for tomorrow more information on the latest release of Wordpress.  Just a hint, things are getting better.

Good night Jonathan,  Good night Tobey

It has been an “interesting” couple of days since our upgrade to Worpress 2.1  For now here is my recommendation, WAIT  This upgrade is not ready for prime time. 

Meaning

  • If you like to spend hours and possibly days getting your blog back up and working then you are ready. 
  • If you aren’t using any plugins at all and have limited catgories and blogroll you can probably upgrade.
  • Otherswise if you want to upgrade and have everything working then you have to wait. 

I’m still stuggling with numerous issus and when I think I have one fixed another pops up.  I did the five steps to get ready for the upgrade.  There should be at least 5 more steps they conveniently skip.  My guess the guys at Wordpress figure if most of it works it is ready and we can work the bugs out as we go.  Again if you like tinkering with the php code, the HTML code, the CSS etc. etc.  You are all set. 

If you want to upgrade and get on with blogging, you need to WAIT.

Here are issues I’m still working on or have resolved. 

Our theme for this blog won’t display the blogroll at all.  All categories have been put together in this new version.  The post categories and link categories are now categories.  I mentioned this in the previous post.  There is some programming in our theme that can’t handle this.  I’ve tested several other themes and most do quite well with the new way the blogrolls are handled.

I’m using Ultimate Tag Warrior for tags in the posts.  It has issues with 2.1.  Whenever you approve a comment on a post it deletes the tags from the post. There is supposed to be a work around, I added the code for the work around, it didn’t work.  The other way I’ve heard to deal with it for now.  

  1. Open the post in edit mode
  2. Copy the tags
  3. Approve the comment
  4. Open the post in edit mode
  5. Paste the tags back in
  6. Save  (of course)

The next issue, our RSS feeds (both blogs) were coming up with errors saying they weren’t valid.  I’m using the feedburner plugin to consolidate all our feed traffic. No one could subscribe to our blogs.  I spent several hours on this one doing research and trying different things.  I updated the feedburner plugin and made sure the options were set.  That corrected the RSS feed issue.

One of the steps I think they left out was this. 

Don’t just deactivate your plugins and then activeate them one at a time after the upgrade.  Go to this list of 2.1 Compatibility Plugins and if you see one there you are using, get the latest version and install it.   Do this on the old version of wordpress unless it says specifically it won’t work with any version older than 2.1

If you don’t find one of your must have plugins there go to the author’s website and ask if it is 2.1 ready and if not, when there will be a version ready for 2.1

Next thing I would do before an upgrade is contact your theme author (if you can) and find out if the theme is ready for 2.1.  I would also recommend you shop for a theme that is 2.1 ready that you could use as your new theme if you decided to upgrade.

Again, if you don’t have to upgrade right now, I would wait for some if this to shake out so you aren’t beating your head against the wall.  I don’t feel to bad about making the upgrade since that is one of the reasons I started this blog in the first place.  To test things out and see what happens.

I am sorry I upgraded the Tucson Real Estate News blog at the same time.  I wish I had waited.  The theme doesn’t seem to have any issues with the blogroll, but having to work around comments to keep the tags is a big pain.

That’s the latest from Lake Wordpressbegone.  I’ll keep you informed as fixes or new issues arise.